Need Advice - Helping Mentally Ill Neighbor

I do not like to come to this site for personal advice, but it is a matter that affects not me, but the life of another person and the greater good of my neighbors with whom we share this building. You see, when you live in a big city apartment building, especially one that is downtown, you grow to care about and for your neighbors just as they do the same for you. However, the implications for one person involved are considerable and that is why I wanted to seek out opinions before making the next move.

If you ever wake up here at around 2 or 3 in the morning, you may hear what at first sounds like a domestic dispute. There is anger; violent shouting and extreme weeping between what you may believe to be two people. But if you listen a little more carefully, you quickly learn that this terrible fight is being carried out by one person.

The building is in very close proximity to another so it's hard to judge just where it is coming from. I was worried enough about this person that I wanted to make sure someone was aware of it. This even I bumped into our building superintendent at a store and mentioned this to him, and to my surprise I learned that the man in question is a resident on the top floor of our building who has a mental condition (of course he would not disclose it to me). I told him that it is not a complaint and I am not worried ABOUT him, but worried FOR him. I am worried that he is alone with no one to make sure he stays on his medication and is a risk to himself.  He asked me to keep him posted and consider putting something down in writing which would begin a process that leads the tenant to getting more help.  I'm torn at the moment. I do believe that I am "my brother's keeper" and want to make sure he is ok. But at the same time, I do not know the true extent of his illness and I do not want to needlessly interfere in his life or inadvertently get him evicted. So I am come to you tonight to seek your pearls of wisdom and to take care of yourselves and each other. Thanks.



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If it's really bad you should call the police and have them check in on him or her. They have the authority to Baker Act a person and are trained to deal with these kinds of things. That's what I would do.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Tue Aug 05, 2008 at 03:06:07 AM EST

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Talk to the landlord.  S/He probably can't tell you much for privacy rights reasons, but chances are they know what is going on.

I have a friend who is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic who does well for  years at a time, and they set her up to live in a small apartment in town.  Of course she hides it from the neighbors best as she can, but of course there are times or circumstances when they notice something odd or worrying.  Sadly, mentally ill people get targeted by violent criminals- muggers, thieves, and rapists particularly.


by killjoy on Tue Aug 05, 2008 at 04:09:44 AM EST

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This really brought back some unpleasant memories. I experienced something very much like this several years ago.

I was living in an apartment building in Dearborn, MI. The woman living across the hall, whom I only knew by sight, went off her meds and started to act like the person mentioned in this diary. I had been gone for the weekend and hadn't realized what was happening. That Sunday night after I returned home I heard arguing coming from her apartment. It sounded like she had a man there. I later found out this had been going on for 2 days already.

The police were called. The apartment manager opened the door for them when she refused to do it herself. I heard the police shout at her to put down a knife. The next thing I heard was a shot. That single shot killed her.

There was a big wrongful death lawsuit over the issue. I had to give a deposition for the case.

What came out in the trial was that there was supposed to be a health professional on a call like that. In this case, there was no one available so the police went alone. The result was that someone died.

This all happened in the mid-90's. The police officer who shot her was called Guyzinger (sp?). His nickname was Gunslinger. You can imagine what the media did with that information.

It is extremely important to make sure the police know this is a mental health problem. Let them know you think the person has gone off their meds. Stress to them that a mental health professional should accompany any officers who respond to the call.

Good luck.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Aug 05, 2008 at 11:12:53 AM EST

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Try talking to the person himself. I recall a neighbor in an apartment building who lived above me. He seemed like an average person in all respects when he passed by, but sometimes you could hear loud cursing from his apartment and yelling out of the window. He did not seem psychotic just angry. I considered the possibility that he may have had Tourette's syndrome and episodes of uncontrolled speech. It eventually stopped. Someone might have complained.

Afterwards, I was sorry that I didn't knock on his door. I changed residence shortly afterward, and never found out what the true situation was.


by shyboy on Tue Aug 05, 2008 at 11:15:57 AM EST

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I would agree to call the police - or if you're not comfortable with that, the fire department. It's also a personal safety issue for the individual.

If you have to, keep calling each time. This establishes a pattern that gives public safety professionals the ability to at least try to locate family members and to use other resources that can provide help.


McSame '08: Against All Hope - and Proud of It
by Its All So Goofy on Tue Aug 05, 2008 at 11:28:57 AM EST


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